and the interesting thing is that the republicans have left st. paul. you don't find two of them side by side. whatever republicans are left in the cities they are isolated and maybe they are living up in towers somewhere. they have all decamped for the suburbs. people don't like to live near people who disagree with them. and so all of the obama people who i know live with other obama people and everybody around the dinner table, you know, believes the same thing. it is essentially, and they don't know anybody who is voting for romney. and this is a real change in the country. i grew up in a small town where that just wasn't possible to go off and live with your own kind, and so you lived in the midst of people whom you disapproved of, and people who -- >> rose: that is probably good, wasn't it? >> it was, because it encouraged civility and it encouraged conversation, you know, to meet somebody who is exactly on the opposite of some important issues and you speak to them directly. >> rose: that is one of the things that cable television does some say,